Rep Range for Building Lean, & Toned Muscle
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Any workout plan is typically devised of 3 segments that have to performed congruently to get a lean and toned body.. Cardio, Diet, and Lifting Weights.. I feel diet is probably the most important of the 3, but not one of the 3 facets can be left out, or you won’t reach your goal in the most efficient time. One of the most discussed debates in the fitness world is, how many reps do I perform to get lean & toned muscle. I’ve heard a number of different answers to this question, but I’ve thought, studied, and “felt” my way through to a solution that makes sense to me and has taken my body from soft, to lean & hard..
A Quick Lesson on the Biology of A Muscle..
Muscle has one of the two ways it can change as you continue your walk through life.. It can grow & get stronger, or it can get smaller & weaker.. In every muscle laying on your skeletal system, there are two dominant types of fibers that make up its physicality.. There are slow twitch fibers.. These fibers push your muscles through long durations of aerobic workouts (such as a marathon running & high rep weight lifting) and are genius at providing your muscles with oxygen.. This fiber represents about 1/3 of the size of your muscle.. Then there are fast twitch fibers.. These fibers only respond to explosive athletic moves (such as sprinting & heavy weight lifting) as they are an “anaerobic” fuel for metabolism and strength.. These fibers become completely exhausted quickly (This is why you get fatigued quickly from heavy weight lifting), but they represent 2/3 the size of your muscle. If we want hardness to our muscles (lean only comes with hard, dense muscle & low body fat), we want to work these fibers out!
Low Rep Range Strength Training for a Lean Body..
A lean body is a hard body.. Like I’ve mentioned before.. When you look at guys like Gregg Plitt, Gregg Avedon, Rusty Joiner, Eric Carlson, & John Fit (Icon Men, ya know.. :)) their bodies are lean and toned because they have that hard foundation of muscle coupled with low body fat.. They have destroyed those fast twitch muscle fibers.. Don’t get the idea these guys are just pretty & have a nice figure.. They are strong! Their diets keep them in check from bloating up like a body builder, but if they wanted to, these guys could all tweak their diets and step on stage with light competitive bodybuilders in no time.. Heavy weight training is what builds that density leading to a lean & hard beach body.. Performing exercises in a rep range from 4-10 is the key to tearing down fast twitch fibers, leading to lean & toned muscle..
(Steve is a pretty “fit” smart guy that I’ve listened to quite a bit.. He’s a bit pudgy in the video because he doesn’t eat clean.. I don’t endorse “Body Performance” and certaintly don’t endorse advice from guys who aren’t lean and cut.. But, he does make great points on ”Reps” that I wanted to pass along to you)
High Reps Create a Toned Body??? No Sir/Ma’am..
We’ve all heard high reps “tone” muscles.. This is a bit of fallacy in that the “toning” is not coming from unloading tons of reps.. A muscle can’t become “toned”, if the muscle is non-existent.. To create that muscle, you need to challenge it with low rep strength training, fueling growth & density.. The muscle is then exposed showing off a “toned” look, when your body fat levels drop.. This takes the other pieces of the fit puzzle (lean diet & cardio) to achieve.. The only time I would recommend high rep training is: If you’re workout is in need of a “shock”, high rep training would be good for a short term flip on your workout routine.. Or, if you are new at weight lifting and need to learn good form, high rep training is a safe introduction to feeling a muscle expand and contract.. BUT, if your desire it to build a lean, ripped beach body, you have to establish that “hardness” & that can’t come without heavy weights..

Remind Yourself.. What Makes a Body Fat.. & What Makes a Body Lean & Sexy..
I do this quite a bit.. I go back to the foundation of what makes a body look and feel the way it does.. Quick mental exercise here.. An unattractive body.. Has body fat, is soft & spongy to the touch, has little muscle mass, eats unhealthy foods, has a slow metabolism, doesn’t do cardio, & is not strong.. An attractive lean & cut beach body.. has low body fat, is hard & dense to the touch, has muscle mass, eats nothing but healthy foods, has a firing fast metabolism, does cardio consistently, & is strong.. The part of this equation we’re focusing on in this post, is the strength & hardness to the touch.. A fit body has strength, creating hardness, resulting in cuts.. If I want cuts, I need strength by tearing down 2/3 of my muscle made up of fast twitch fibers with 4-10 rep range training.. Ok.. That’s what I need to do.. (That’s how I mentally “jog” to reframe my focus & clear out anything other than the principle behind my workout..)
As a Fitness Model.. Think of it This Way..
The Way You “look” is a reflection of what you eat.. Bulky Bodies aren’t eating clean.. (I will post about clean, lean diets for lean, toned muscle in a “soon-to-come” post).. The density and hardness of your body is a reflection of your strength.. If I can blend strong muscles, with a clean, lean diet & cardio regimen , the result will be hard muscle exposed by low body fat.. The Key is to find that balance so the system is working in harmony.. 80% of the time, I’m training in that 4-10 rep range because I want my muscles wound hard and tight around my skeletal system.. (As you get stronger and denser muscle, you actually “tighten” your body up shrinking your size.. Your muscle fibers wind tighter and tighter & suction harder and harder around your bone structure..) If you don’t keep your diet in check, then you still won’t expose leanness.. But that’s a different post.. For now, understand that, high rep training does nothing but makes you breathe aerobically harder.. Let your cardio/aerobics fuel fat burn.. When you’re hitting the iron, think of getting stronger and tearing down those fast twitch fibers to set yourself up for looking cut.. Don’t try and kill two birds with one stone here (Cardio & Weights).. Let the weights build the hardness, and then the cardio blast the fat.. “Going heavy” on the weights won’t make you bigger & swollen, if you’re eating right.. It will make you more cut, lean, defined, & chiseled..
John Fit.. (Flexing my bicep and touching it for hardness as I type.. (Great @ Multi-tasking)



May 6th, 2008 at 6:00 am
Is it safe to say that the people who are doing the high rep training is looking for more of a cardio workout looking to lose the fat around the muscles?
I feel like everyone has always said to do high reps to cut up.
Alan
May 6th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Alan,
Yeah.. I think you’re right.. Most people feel high reps are going to cut them up, but this is a misunderstanding.. If fat loss only is the goal, there’s no better place to do that than on the cardio equipment.. Weight lifting in any form can’t come close to burning the number of calories that running, jogging, swimming, biking, etc. can burn.. So, if fat loss ONLY is the goal, then hit the cardio instead of weights.. Adding muscle to your frame lights your metabolism and naturally your burn more fat during the day. Adding muscle is a good thing.. High reps will not add muscle to your body, heavy weights will putting your body in fat burning mode by building muscle. Most people feel high reps are “toning” your muscle, but this is not the case. To get cut or lose weight, do cardio & clean up your diet.. To build muscle, lift heavy weights.. As I mentioned, I wouldn’t commingle these two things.. Let the weights build muscle, and the cardio burn fat.. By doing high reps you’re not building lean muscle, and you’re not burning the fat you would by doing cardio, so you’re not getting the maximum benefits of either purpose.. Hope this helps clear things up.. Let me know if you have any more questions..
John Fit..
May 6th, 2008 at 9:34 am
Another question for you… I understand that you say don’t try killing two birds with one stone. But what kind of results will I get if I lift heavy 4 to 5 times a week and also throw cardio in there a couple times a week.
To me it’s not over killing cardio but it’s keeping me somewhat lean.
Do you see this as a problem?
May 6th, 2008 at 9:44 am
Blake,
I think that’s a great formula.. I wouldn’t neglect any piece of the fit puzzle (diet, cardio, heavy weight training) to get lean and cut.. I see many guys/gals (more guys than gals) lifting heavy, but not eating clean or doing cardio (this is Red Flag for Bulking Status..) and they are missing the opportunity to add lean muscle without adding excess fat.. Cardio will keep your metabolism firing, while the heavy weights are adding density and hardness to your frame.. Again, if you’re a hardgainer or ectomorph then I wouldn’t go overboard on the cardio (a few times a week is plenty), but if you are meso/endomorph, then you need to be hitting the cardio hard 3-5 days a week for 30+minutes.. None-the-less, heavy weights need to be in your plan.. This will keep that muscle dense and active, while the cardio peels the fat away.. You’re on the right track here with your plan.. Keep me in the loop with your progress..
John Fit..
May 6th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
When you say “hit the cardio hard”, does that mean sprinting and HIIT cardio, or does a fast walk with an incline count? What do you recommend for someone who’s not in great shape?
May 6th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Ty,
I think you’re referring to my comment to Blake, and we were addressing the amount of cardio to do if you are a meso/endomorph body type (thicker bodies that retain higher levels of fat, but put on muscle pretty easy).. If you are holding on to stubborn body fat & fat loss is your immediate goal (as opposed to muscle gain), then performing cardio with 30-45 minutes of interval sprinting would be a great plan for you to start burning that fat.. Walking on an incline is certaintly a good fat burning strategy, & I do this often as well.. But, high intensity interval cardio will burn fat the quickest.. I always felt my FIRST goal was to get lean & cut body fat.. I didn’t want to put on muscle until my body fat was low, so when I did gain that muscle it would immediately be exposed as lean muscle size.. (I never wanted to bulk to put on muscle.. Low body fat is much more important to me than big muscles, so I’m like you.. I wanted to get in shape first, then build muscle second).. For you, if you’re not in good shape, focusing on many different forms of cardio would probably be best.. I wouldn’t just settle for the monotenous sprinting/walking routine 5 days/week.. Sprint/jog for 30-45 minutes on Mon. and Wed., ride the bike or take “Spin Class” at your local gym (if that’s available to you) on Tues., & on Friday, walk on an incline for an hour, or swim for an hour.. What I just listed there is actually the cardio regimen I”m currently on.. I do something different almost every day, but its all interval.. I think interval sprints is the best way to get athletically lean, and drop bodyfat the quickest, but mixing it up and doing different high energy cardio workouts will be best for keeping your body guessing as to what aerobic stimulus is coming next (if your body doesn’t have time to adapt, its sculpting and cooking body fat).. I think sticking with one type of cardio gets really boring (definitely does for me), but chasing your heart rate up & down through interval changes in speed and exertion of energy is best way to burn fat, AND build athletic muscle in your legs, core, & glutes (Great benefit to HIIT cardio as well).. So, if this happens in the pool with swimming 15 fast & slow laps with different strokes, on the bike interval speed peddling for 10 miles, or running interval sprints for 1 minute and jogging for 2 minutes, then sprint 1 minute, jog 2, etc etc, any of these forms are all HIIT strategies that will eliminate body fat & tone muscle most efficiently.. Also, don’t forget.. Diet is the most important piece for you.. If you’re not eating clean food, then all the cardio is moot.. Hope this helps.. Let me know what you decide on & I’m always here for Q&A if you need anything.. Good luck Ty!
John Fit.. (In Orlando for the night, and hitting the golf links in the AM.. Hopefully I brought my “A” game..)
May 7th, 2008 at 9:42 am
such a fantastic post.
signed,
MizFit who’d love more mass
May 7th, 2008 at 10:20 am
flex for me please
great post. like your style.
-JC
May 7th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Thanks for the information. Do you have any suggestions for someone who has a endomorph body type. I can put on muscle very easily; however it’s a struggle for me to loose bodyfat. I’m a type II diabetic well controlled and take insulin injections which has caused me to put on a lot of weight/body fat. I just started doing intervals on the treadmill for 20min 3x week. I actually tend to lift higher weights to create a fat burning effect as oppose to the heavier weights are you suggested.
May 7th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Miz Fit,
Thanks so much for the compliment! I love talking fitness and helping people get in shape.. This site is for you.. Hope to see ya soon!
Jacqueline Carly,
Flexing just for you as I type! How’s it look? Thanks for stopping by.. I’ll talk to you again soon!
John Fit!
May 7th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Mark,
‘Glad to hear your Diabetes is under control.. You sound very educated on your body and that is the biggest step in getting your weight under control.. Many people want to change/improve their shape, but aren’t congruent with their body’s sensitivities to foods making it tough to re-shape their body.. You’ve been forced to understand these facets/sensitivities of your diet, so half the battle is already won for you.. You’ve created a diet strategy that has balanced insulin production and this is a great thing! As far as cardio and fitness goes, an endormorph tends to grow muscle by just by looking at weights, as you mentioned, so cardio should make up the majority of your fitness strategy.. Sounds like you have a great start on the cardio @ 20 minutes 3 times per week, but I would probably stretch that workout to at least 30-45 min. You’re going to have be very patient with fat loss as your body is naturally geared towards retaining fat, but as much cardio as you can stand will do you well. (again, I’m not sure if this negatively affects your diabetes in any way, so I’m careful to not prescribe any program that would have a negative impact on your diagnosis..) The fundametals of your body type require extra work on the cardio equipment.. I work with many endomorphs that are doing 45 minutes of cardio 4-5 days per week, and that’s the minimum they need to perform to cut body fat.. I would suggest a combination of interval sprinting/jogging, biking, swimming, walking on an incline, & anything to keep your body active as often as possible.. The weights don’t seem to be an issue as muscle gain isn’t the problem, so I would lean away from the weights and focus primarily on cardio, as muscle can come to you easily at any time.. You have to burn calories, and the best way to do that isn’t with any form of weight lifting.. If you have time to lift weights, I would supplement that time with high interval cardio training.. Lifting twice a week, total body for 20-30 min. is probably all you need to retain & even grow muscle as an extreme ectomorph.. Try and break a sweat everyday.. I would shoot for 45 min. of high interval cardio 4-5 days a week for maximum fat loss.. This is also best done on empty stomach to but your body in fat burning mode (Doing this first thing in the morning feels great & gets the day off to a nice start if your schedule can accomodate it) .. Diet is so important to you as well, so I’m sure your physican has you eating only foods to suppress the diabetic condition.. But if those foods are putting weight on your body, you do have to work extra hard on the cardio to drop the pounds.. Pretty cut and dry advice huh.. I hope this helps and look forward to hearing about your progress if you can bump up that cardio output.. I think the body has to slim down if you do more work & keep the insulin spikes in relative check.. Thanks for spending some time with me.. I look forward to staying in touch!
John Fit..
May 10th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Great site John
Very inspirational. Thanks.
May 11th, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Steve,
Thanks for the compliment bud! I’ll see you again soon!
John Fit..
May 12th, 2008 at 3:40 am
more posts please.
or I need to post less
check back less?
either way.
have a great week!
May 12th, 2008 at 5:01 am
I’m with Ms Fit.
I’ve been checking back every day to see the same post.
Bring it on!
May 12th, 2008 at 6:58 am
Miz Fit & Alan P.,
Posting today and organizing the article as we speak.. Sorry for the delay.. I was in Orlando/Disney for 4 days on business & competing in a mini-biathalon for charity (What a great time!), but now I’m back in the saddle and will continue with our momentum.. Thanks for checking back with me.. I’m gonna bring you the “get lean” news, reviews, and who’s who in the fitness world! I’ll talk to you in a bit!
John Fit..
May 12th, 2008 at 7:51 am
Love this post! - Flex those biceps!
May 13th, 2008 at 3:19 am
tried to leave a comment above but it wouldnt take.
FANTABULOUS post.
you know I agree with it all from the Katie Holmes-Look to the passing on the bread (I dont really dont do any porcessed white except for once a monthish. more the macular degeneration reason than anything else–but I digress).
anyway.
as always you are enlightening us masses.
M.
May 13th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Angie,
Love that you love the post! I just flexed AGAIN.. You’re workin me out over here..
Miz Fit,
I think the comment situation is fixed.. Sorry about that.. Yeah.. Katie’s adorable, but needs to get back to eating some food.. Not sure what role she’s “getting thin for”, but I don’t think Skeletor was a girl.. Whoa.. I need to cool it.. I like Katie Holmes, but she does look better & more toned when she eats.. Good example of how a low carb diet zaps you of a healthy lean and toned look..
Thanks for the compliment! Glad you have a good time when you hang out with me..
John Fit.. (Eating, then hitting the gym in about an hour..)
May 14th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Hey John Fit! Awesome article on the rep range to work in to be lean and toned! It really answered the questions i have always had on how many reps to do. I sent you a message about a week ago and I would like to thank you for your prompt reply. Now, starting next week my girlfriend is joining my gym and she wants to workout together, which i am looking forward to because it will give us something productive to do together. My question is, do you have any suggestions on three day training splits, since that is the amount of days a week we will be able to go together. I have been trying to find a good three day a week workout anyway since I have recently graduated college and am now in the working world and don’t have the time I used to. Your advive on a good training split for us would be really appreciated. Oh, our days we have available to workout will be Tuesday, Thursday and Friday, then I figure on weekends we could just do a form of fun outdoor cardio. Thanks a bunch John Fit!! One last thing, I really apologize for the length of this message!!
Brian
May 14th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Ha.. No worries on the length of the Message.. I like an in-depth discussions (much better than scratching the surface).. You have a great situation! You and your girlfriend working out together is super for the relationship.. I know alot of couples that can’t deal with it and it doesn’t work, but if you can get in shape together a really tight bond is created because you are being productive together.. Shows a committment to the “Team”.. She’ll fall in love with you all over again when she sees your patient & willing to help her shape up.. Great situation Brian.. I hope it works out for you..
So, you have 3 days to hit the weights together.. This is plenty of time to build a lean physique as I feel anymore than this could create an overtraining situation anyway, unless you’re hitting the calories hard.. I would suggest a total body circuit style training split.. (I’m actually getting ready to post on the circuit training 3-day split program that is great for fat burn, toning, and creating total body balance).. To give you a front-end “heads up” on the program to get you started.. I would suggest hitting each body part with 2 sets of reps from 6-15.. So, pick one exercise per body part and hit it with 2 sets in my suggested rep range.. I would keep your girlfriend in the 12-15 rep range, and push you to keep your reps between 6-10.. I wouldn’t do too many more sets than the suggested 2 because you don’t want to completely tear those fibers down as you will still be sore when you come back on Thr. to lift those body parts again.. So keep the volume low, but keep the reps in that suggested range for you both, and then blast the cardio as well.. This is a good “Fitness” style split as it is plenty to keep muscles toned with a busy schedule.. Keep the diet clean, cardio up (like you said on the weekends) and again, try and to hit each body part, with a different exercise each day (definitely mix it up since your volume will be low) to keep your body guessing..
Good luck to you both! Let me know how it works out.. Do this for at least 4 weeks, then we’ll switch you over to a different routine for a little “shocking” to your physique..
John Fit.. (Looking to Tone & Lean You Up Too!)
May 14th, 2008 at 9:40 pm
great post
im 6′3 and 180lbs. i want to get cut abs and i want big arms. i have a little bit of stomach fat but not much. what do you think the best way is to tackle this situation. and about how long do u think it would take to get the way i want. and what workout plan should i use??
alot of questions i know but i would appreciate it if ya answered =]
thanks
mike
May 16th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
Michael,
Hmm.. This is a deep question, but I would lean towards this.. If you want to gain muscle (@ 6′3″ you probably aren’t carrying alot of muscle @ 180lbs), I would focus on eating alot of “clean” calories (Check out my Carbs for Lean Muscle Post).. You need about 16 calories per pound to gain weight.. Diet is the most important.. 16*180= 2,880 calories Everday.. Eating right is tougher than working out right.. But, as far as your workout, I would hit the low reps 6-10 rep range.. This post explains the best rep range to lift in.. I’m constantly posting on tips to build muscle and get “lean” (not bulking), so keep an eye out for new stuff I post.. We’ll get ya taken care of.. For now eat 2,800 clean calories a day and lift heavy weights.. This will spark the growing process.. Thanks for checking out my blog.. Let’s stay in touch!
John Fit..
May 16th, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Hi there, cool site! This is my first time reading your posts. I have a question for you, actually a couple questions.
I’m about 6′2 to 6″3, I weigh about 180 pounds right now. I have pretty good muscle tone all over my body right now except on lower abs. Pretty much the main problem most guys have. I’m frustrated because I have been working to get really lean, which I am all over my body except for in this critical area. The stubborn fat in this area spoils the lean and toned look I’ve achieved everywhere else. How in the world do I get rid of this stubborn bodyfat??? It’s so frustrating. I feel like I’ve tried everything.
Could you help? How many calories should I eat, how much cardio, how much weights, what types of cardio, how much HIIT, any carb cycling, low carb diets etc……………??????? Any help would be so appreciated. Thanks for your time, great site by the way?
Reg
May 21st, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Would you recommend a split or a total-body workout?
May 21st, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Hi, I joined a gym March 31st. I am 5′6″ tall and went from 145-153 in this time. I am bulkier but not ripped by any means. My problem is this: I have about 50% kidney function and my creatinine is elevated at 160. This is outside the normal 60-102 range. So, I have read that “strenuous” exercise can increase serum creatinine by 14% and when working out you also have a tendancy to eat a little more protein. Normally, I do 12 sets (3 exercises) for each body part and do two body parts per session. It takes me about 1 hr 15 mins for this (24 sets). I do high reps and progressively add weight and lower the reps (10,8,6,4). However, everyone is telling my to stick in the 10-12 or 12-15 range and do more cardio. John, am I hurting my kidneys or body by increasing muscle mass and working out hard? More muscle = more creatinine in the blood but I just want to be ripped and have some muscle. I DO NOT want to be bulky but I DO NOT want to be skinny. I want to be simply like you, haha.
Rick
May 21st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Reg,
Thanks so much for checking out my site and the compliments.. The lower body fat will be the last place you lose fat.. Everyone has that last place that they lose the fat, but that little area on your stomach will tighten up with cardio & clean diet.. Just takes time..
As far as the other questions.. If you’re looking to lose fat, I would recommend 4-5 days of HIIT cardio, & clean eating.. Calories depend on your genetics.. I wouldn’t focus as much on the number of calories as I would the type of calories.. If you’re eating the right kind of calories, you can eat till your hearts content & you will still burn fat.. Check out most post on Carbs-Must Eats for a Lean Physique for info. on that.. I’m not a fan of low carb dieting.. If you eat the right kind of carbs, and do cardio, you won’t put on fat.. With the weights, I recommend a great split in my post (Get away from your bodybuilding routine..) Check it out for a great split.. Stick with the low reps to get lean.. You need to build muscle to have a hard, lean physique..
Hope this clears things up.. But surf around my site.. I have loaded up on info. for you that addresses your questions.. I’ll talk to you soon! Stay in touch..
John Fit..
May 21st, 2008 at 8:24 pm
Matt,
I like the upper body/lower body split.. Total body isn’t bad but my best look & feel for getting lean & hard is this split.. Check out my post titled “Get away from bodybuilding Routine..” This points out a great split to geting lean by holding onto muscle while trimming body fat.. Let me know your thoughts..
John Fit..
May 21st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
Rick!
Welcome! All the way from Canuckville! Glad to have you..
I hear ya buddy.. Without being a physican, I don’t want to guide a certain way of what’s best for your kidneys.. I think eating tons of protein is overrated in my opinion anyway.. But, getting ripped isn’t and having aesthetically pleasing muscle isn’t worth the kidney problems.. I know thats serious stuff and I wouldn’t temp inflaming it with any bodybuilding style diets..
Don’t be fooled into thinking guys who are cut have tons of muscle.. Most guys with great bodies you see in the magazines (Mens Healthy, Mens fitness, GQ, etc. NOT Flex, Muscle Mag) aren’t stacked with muscle.. They just have such low bodyfat that the cuts enhance what muscle they have and that’s the look you want.. (If were to see some of these models in person, you’d be amazed at how thin & NOT big they really are.. Muscle isn’t the key.. Low body fat is where its at..) You probably already have a good foundation of muscle, focus on pounding the cardio and eating ONLY clean carbs.. Don’t be afraid to lose a little size, as you will probably look bigger as you get more cut anyway.. I’m getting ready to post an article titled, “Whoa! I’m too Big! What do I do Now?”.. This will cover your concerns well.. Keep an eye out for it.. In the meantime, focus on the clean diet (nothing matters if you aren’t eating clean and lean), and continue to do the cardio as you already are.. Hope this helps you out bud.. Let me know what else I can do for you.. Keep being consistent with the cardio.. That with good diet is your ticket..
John Fit..
May 21st, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Wow, thank you John for your quick reply. I understand you are not a Doctor but your points are well taken. I agree with you that many cover models are not very big at all but since they are ripped, it is deceiving. I will focus on cardio, eating good carbs (i.e. not sugar), and weight training. My problem is trying to figure out the right reps to maintain the muscle density I have but to not constantly tear down the muscle which probably is not good for me. My physiotherapist said 12-15 reps for three sets. To me, I feel like I need at least one heavy set of 6 reps. I guess the question is, if I change from 12,10,6,4 rep sets down to 12-10-10, am I going to be lean and cut? Or do I need heavy sets to be “dense” and tight?
Finally, I usually lift weights 3 days on and 2-3 off. So, by the time I get around to chest, it has had 4-5 full days to recover. Perhaps, I should do a two workout split and do it twice a week. Either way, I do cardio on my days off and am trying to cut my weight workout down to 60 mins so I can hit cardio after and be in the gym 90 mins.
Thank you John, awesome site.
Rick
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
HEY WHATS UP JOHN, THIS IS THE ONLY SITE THAT ACTUALLY OFFERS Advice personally and ive been looking for some advice because ive been stuck and cant seem to gain more muscle. Im 5′10, weigh 170lb and my bf is 13-14%. i cant seem to gain muscle and lose body fat which really frustrates me so much. any advice would be great, ive actually been thinking about doing the zig zag diet which i eat 5 days low carb high protien and low calorie, and 2 days high carbs high protein and high calories. what would u suggest, any help would be great and thank you.
May 26th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
Rick,
No problem on the quick comment back.. I like getting back soon and always stay close to the site, so I’ll keep getting back to you sooner than later..
If you already have that density, then you may not need the heavy sets.. If a huge bodybuilder like Jay Cutler wanted to get lean, he wouldn’t need to add more strength to get it, since he’s already huge.. So, he would focus more on diet and cardio and lift weights to maintain.. Most people in the gym lack that foundation that you have and need to build a little more muscle to get lean.. If you are satisfied with your “size” and density, then the high reps are fine.. The cardio and diet are ultimately what’s gonna rip you up though..
Great plan on adding the cardio to your strategy.. I think that’s going to be key for you to fire up your metabolism and burn fat easier down the road.. You’re on a good plan now.. Stick to it for at least 4 weeks and let’s evaluate after that..
Let me know in the interim if you need anything..
John Fit..
May 26th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
Kayo,
Glad that you love the info! You’re right.. Its one of the rare sites that really addresses getting lean muscle that looks and feels good, as opposed to be bulkyness and overdeveloped size..
5′10″ 170lbs sounds like you have a nice foundation of size.. Body fat is the problem.. Are you doing cardio?
Again, as I’ve mentioned in previous posts, I don’t think carbs are the biggest deal, as long as you’re eating the right kind of carbs.. Zig Zagging your carbs isn’t a problem, but I’d focus more on the type of carbs I was eating.. Eat ONLY Low Glycemic carbs.. They are bland, but will light your metabolism and lead to burning some of that fat.. Also, get on the cardio if you’re not already.. 30 min a day for 4-5 days a week is going to be important.. You won’t lose size if you’re eating enough quality foods, but the cardio will only fire up your metabolism and allow you to eat MORE quality foods, leading to muscle gain and fat loss.. I hope this gives you a little guidance, but I think eating the right kind of carbs is more important that the amount for the time being.. & the cardio is a big piece of the fat burn formula so hopefully you’re doing that or will add it..
John
May 26th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Hi, im an 18 yr old male, im about 5′7 and 162lbs. I’ve been lifting heavy weights since Aug 07. At my heaviest (due to muscle weight gain) i was 174. I have a body fat % of 12.67 and i have a fast metabolism. My goal is to be around 145-150lbs lean muscle. Over the duration of my workouts, i have gained a lot of muscle mass and strength in my arms and shoulders–however, it doesn’t really show unless i start working those muscles. I believe i have fallen into the bulky category. I have been trying to monitor my eating and eat between 1200-1600 calories. I seem to MAINTAIN my weight instead of lose it. I do not currently have a cardio regimen and i intend to start running every morning. This is my biggest issue, i am a true size 29-30, however i have to buy 32-34 because of my posterior and thighs. It really upsets me because it makes me feel and look heavier than i really am. I am toned everywhere but there and i would like your advice on losing close to 15lbs and tightening my thighs and posterior to properly fit into my 28s and 29s
** I work out at a gym during school, however at the moment, i am home for the summer and I only own two 15lb weights, one 30lb and two 3lb. Do i need to purchase new weights? I dont know if i can afford a gym membership because i will soon be working a full time job for the summer.
Please help lol.
Thank you very much.
May 31st, 2008 at 2:52 am
Update: I recently joined Bally Total Fitness for the summer.
May 31st, 2008 at 9:58 am
Davy J.,
That’s great news! Create a plan and stick to as best as you can.. You will soon become addicted to feeling & looking great! Let me know how its working it out for you..
John Fit..
June 3rd, 2008 at 8:44 am
Hey thanks for the response, since I left a post about losing the stubborn bodyfat a couple weeks ago, I’ve done just that! The fat is almost all gone! Thanks for the help, I just had to keep doing what I was doing for a little bit longer and the fat kept coming off. I continued with HIIT training 3-4 days per week and 2-3 other days of steady state cardio. I continued to lift 3 days per week as well as eat very clean 6 and a half days a week.
Thanks for the tips, love this site! Take care.
Reg
June 6th, 2008 at 1:33 am
Can you help me establish a plan if possible? I havent had a chance to meet with my trainer yet and i want to start losing the fat ASAP!
Please, and thank you in advance.
June 6th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Davy,
If you’re looking to lose fat, you need to be doing cardio.. I’m not sure what your schedule looks like and how much time you’re available to work on your body, but I can tell you that body fat stems from lack of activity and not eating clean.. I would suggest trying lifting 2-3 days a week and doing HIIT cardio 4-5 days a week for at least 30 minutes.. Also, read my article on “Carbohydrates.. Must Eat’s for a Lean Physique”.. This will get you started in selecting the correct carbs for fat burn, and the importance of staying away from sugar.. Hope this gets you started bud.. Stay in touch with me!
John Fit..
June 23rd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
Hey John whats up, you see i’m a hardgainer i’m 5′11 and 135, i’ve always had a problem gaining weight but i’ve done a lot of research and realized thats mostly my fault because i always believed i was eating alot but i wasn’t really eating much but i’ve changed that and i’ve upped the intake of calories i eat a day, also what do you recommend for a hardgainer like myself who wants to be 160-170 of muscle can that be done going to the gym 2-3 times a week and doing cardio and how long should i be running? also is it possible for me to get to that level in a year?
June 24th, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Dear John! I love your site, and I am so impressed with your insights. I find myself reading through every reply with rapt attention. So, it’s with great eagerness that I come to you with my own fitness struggle. Here’s my basic story: I am 39 years old, 5′8″, and about 140 lbs, with about 6-7% body fat. I’m in excellent health and physical-body condition overall. While I’ve spent my entire adult life working out with weights and light cardio, I have just completed my first year training for my first triathlon — which is scheduled in a about a month. While I realize that my current condition may easily be taken as text-book perfect, I’d like to reach my goal of slimming down further so that I have a much more lean and ripped muscular look somewhere between 130-133lbs. One of my problems, I think, is that because I spent so many years lifting to get big, I am now more on the muscle-bulk side of things. Because I am so lean, with very little body fat, I am finding it almost impossible to get myself leaner. Even with being more careful with portion control and eating every couple hours of sensible, healthy food, I just can’t seem to get that ripped look. It seems that the little bit of fat that I do have is clinging to my stomach and sides. Can you help me to figure out how to slim my muscle bulk down so that I am at a healthy muscle size: lean and ripped? Is it possible to do this healthily at 130lbs? I’d really like to attain this size and then maintain it afterwards with off-season fluctuations that allow no more than 5 lbs add on during slower workout periods. I have scoured the internet and no one seems to address the people in my situation. Help! I think you are probably the person to give me some direction.
Gratefully,
MT
June 24th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
Joey B.
Thanks for the comment/question.. First of all, understand that you have a problem to tackle that most of us would love to have.. Being natually thin and lean is a great to place to be for sculpting the “Fit Model” look.. You just need to add some weight and strength to your thin frame.. I would suggest reading a number of my past articles that support gaining lean only muscle without taking on alot of body fat..
But, to give you a recap on my recommendations, I would focus on these things.. I would eat at least 2500 calories a day full of CLEAN Carbs, protein, and make fat a staple in your diet.. When adding muscle, keeping 30% of your calories from fat is pretty good strategy.. This means on a 2,500 calorie diet for you, you’ll need roughly 75grams of fat everyday.. This equals roughly a whole avocado, a few grams of Good Fat from Oatmeal (My favorite Carb Source that I eat about 4 cups of everyday.. Alot of Carbs, but much needed to add muscle) & also some fish or Red Meat (Lean Beef) @ night.. You need to lift heavy weights in a rep range of 3-7 to add strength/mass to your frame, & only walk for cardio.. Doing cardio for you is going to cut into your progress of adding lean muscle to your frame because you already have a pretty fast metabolism.. Lift heavy weight, eat lots of Clean Calories (Specifically Carbs (Oatmeal, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, Sweet Potatoes, as much as you can stomach) & Fat (Avocados, Oats, Red Meat, Fish, Olive Oil (Maybe Drink 1-2 Teaspoons a day.. Great for Your Skin as Well..).. Focus on these things and I wouldn’t do any type of cardio that’s going to elevate your heart rate too high, sticking to only walking to keep your heart healthy and metabolism firing to keep fat from overshadowing that muscle gain.. AND Yes.. This is possible in a years time.. You need to be committed and dedicated to eating, which is the biggest piece of the puzzle.. Don’t worry about 1 or 2 cheat meals a week either.. A little Pizza, Cheeseburger, Ice Cream splurge isn’t bad when trying to gain weight and add muscle.. Good luck and keep me in the loop with your progress.. Remember, if you’re looking to grow, you have to eat, eat, eat.. and then eat again.. ha.. Talk to you soon..
John Fit..
June 24th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Michael Thomas,
Thanks so much for the positive feedback on my information.. Hearing your response is exactly why I write, and I’m couldn’t be any more ecstatic when reading your response.. Let’s see if we can tackle this issue for you..
5′8″, 140lbs.. Hmmm… Those are pretty lean stats there, and I wouldn’t think you’re having trouble looking lean and cut at that weight.. Especially @ 6-7% bodyfat.. Most fit models you see in magazine condition and shape are at this body fat level and its where everyone wants to be, but you want to be even leaner.. What is the “look” you’re after? What do you see/or who do you see that really inspires you that has the “look” and appeal you are looking for? I only ask those questions because at your body level, specs, and fitness level you probably are extremely lean looking as it is.. Maybe send me some pics, so I can take a look where you’re at, if you’re ok with that.. I personally think most men look best around 8% body fat, as lower than 6-7% starts to look a little too thin & can be more stress on your immune system & organ function, which is more harm than good.. With that said..
If you’re looking for further body fat loss, you seem to be doing enough cardio and activity to keep your metabolism peeling fat off.. Focus hard on elimination of sodium (processed or “Bagged/canned” foods) cut carbs after 3pm, eating only veggies & lean protein after that time.. I assume you’re not taking in sugar.. If you’re drinking sports drinks to fuel your extreme workouts, cut that out as well.. Even though they’re good for replacing electrolytes & mineral content in your body, it isn’t condusive to body fat loss.. Again, we’re talking about going from 7% Body Fat to 4-5% body fat.. Carbs are only ment to fuel energy levels & provide calorie support to retain lean muscle, but if you’re looking to lose weight & drop Body Fat, and you’re energy levels are extremely high (training for triathalon) front loading carbs (Extreme low glycemic Carbs..) first thing in the morning & lunch, then ONLY veggies from 2-3pm through the rest of the night.. Also, consider eliminating most fat and keeping that to 10% of caloric intake.. There’s enough fat in most natural foods to accomplish this 10% intake.. Also, consider going completely organic with what you put in your mouth.. Only fresh veggies, fruit (fruit only in the AM.. Low Glycemic Carbs only.. Below 55 rating would be considered low), & Lean Meats.. I went on a Veggie, Fruit, & Lean Meat only diet (Fish, Lean Chicken, & Extreme Lean Maverick Beef) Diet once and got really shredded, but kept up the HIIT cardio & strength training.. Even though you see youself as bulky, muscle size isn’t to blame in my opinion (I would have to see pics of you @ 140lbs, & 6-7% BF before I concede you’re bulky because that doesn’t sound too bulky to me), so I know there’s alot here, but the focus for losing body fat is raising energy out, and front loading your carbs in the AM & only veggies at night.. I hope you are well, and hope this info. is helpful.. I know there’s alot here that I’ve thrown out there, but you seem to be in a very good place, and are now to the point of just fine-tuning your body.. I can imagine you look great now, & I wouldn’t stress too much about perfecting something that’s already.. I’ll talk to you again soon, and keep me in the loop with your progress..
John Fit..
June 24th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
John, Thanks for the very thoughtful reply! Give me the email address to which I should send some photos of mysef, and I will take you up on offer to show photos. This way, you can reply with your own perspective. Thanks! I look forward to putting your ideas to work and answering your other specific questions.
Michael Thomas
June 24th, 2008 at 8:21 pm
Michael Thomas,
Just email the pics to my “Contact Page” on the site.. Or you can just email them straight to john@johnfit.com..
Looking forward to checking them out..
John Fit..
June 24th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
Joey B
i truly appreciate that you took the time to reply and answer my question, and you have done a great job so far of helping people out who want to have that lean, sexy look. i have a couple of question, i was reading one of your posts and it said do 6-8 sets of chest etc etc, i didn’t quite understand this, did you mean do 6-8 reps of possibly bench pressing and other chest exercises . Also is it harder for an ectomorph to gain muscle mass. Also i haven’t worked out in two years so i’m not the greatest in shape and i’m still young at 19 years of age should i begin benching my weight or just dipping a little bit lower than that not to kill my old and useless muscles by the way i used to bench 145 two years ago.
July 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pm
Joey,
Thanks so much for the compliment.. We’re trying to Bring “Sexy Back” here.. haha..
I did mean 6-8 sets, and I did mean 6-8reps.. Maybe 2 exercises of 3 sets each.. 6-8 Reps for each Set..
It is tougher for an Ectomorph to gain Muscle Mass..
I would probably start out by doing some pullups, pushups, dips, maybe some squats just to get the blood flowing back in your muscles.. I wouldn’t get too caught up in a bodybuilding routine because it doesn’t take alot of resistance to start growing muscle.. Pushups, Pullups, & some Squats and cardio are really all you need to get in Great Beach Shape without Overdevelopment.. Good Luck and Let me Know What You Decide..
John Fit..
July 19th, 2008 at 7:16 am
i have been working out for years now off and on… i just recently got back to a 5 day workout plan. i do weights with different body parts mon-fri and cardio at least three times a week. i eat clean foods such as chicken yams whole wheat wraps tuna whole grain rice and the list goes on. my body fat is hovering right around 11.18% and i am getting extremely frustrated as i cannot seem to get it lower. i want to get to 6% but stay around 8%. do you have any advice? i always lift heavy and never go over 10 reps. i use the pyramid method most of the time. any advice on diet and what i can do to improve? what is your opinion on carbs before bed? thanks